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破解一盤象棋殘局

發言人:迷圓周率, on Nov/29/2018    08:56:43 (IP code: X.X.101.175)
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Record ID: 1543453003   From: 台灣

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回信 發言人:Golden, on Nov/29/2018    14:41:15 (IP code: X.X.46.31)
 temo:

AI can't 排殘局, because AI does not have "creative capability", just look at 殘局, it can't happen in a normal game,
 

Record ID: 1543453003R024   From: 美國

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    14:44:12 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 022, O.K. I get it, finally. That's smart, coming from behind.
I think you did that before.

Let me ask you a question: Are you left-handed?
 

Record ID: 1543453003R025   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    14:47:19 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 024, I don't know what do you mean.
You think AI can take only "normal" game? Most likely: Not so.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R026   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    14:53:06 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 Remember the AlphaGo showdown?
After the deciding defeat, Chinese Human players (among them, even Masters) tried to imitate AlphaGO's "abnormal" moves.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R027   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Golden, on Nov/29/2018    14:53:53 (IP code: X.X.46.31)
 temo:

Are you left-handed?
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No
 

Record ID: 1543453003R028   From: 美國

回信 發言人:Golden, on Nov/29/2018    15:01:51 (IP code: X.X.46.31)
 temo:

" 024, I don't know what do you mean.
You think AI can take only "normal" game? Most likely: Not so."
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No,that is not what I mean "AI can't 排殘局", if you give AI a 殘局, AI can play, but AI can't think of "to make that 殘局", AI does not have "creative capability".
 

Record ID: 1543453003R029   From: 美國

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    15:14:37 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 O.K. I'll try to figure that out.

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028,
I see you seem to "hack" 迷桑's game pretty well. ^^
 

Record ID: 1543453003R030   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Golden, on Nov/29/2018    15:41:06 (IP code: X.X.46.31)
 temo:

028,
I see you seem to "hack" 迷桑's game pretty well. ^^
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迷圓周率 can " think deeply " very well, I hope he can apply this skill to "problem solving" and help Taiwan, Taiwan has big problem now, I see many people can't see the problem and suggest/demand something (to government) which will create more problem.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R031   From: 美國

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    15:52:06 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 迷桑 does have Proposed something.
But it turns out to be really a lousy solution, IMO.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R032   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    15:53:35 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 I got to take a break.
See you later, and very nice to have a chat with you, Golden 桑.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R033   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    17:41:07 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 He proposed to elect KO the President. Can you believe that?

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所以 013 是障眼法嗎?

殘局大師迷桑果然精於算計. 好在解得快, 不然若沒事去參考 013, 那就可能被耍了 -- 和紅相根本無關啊.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R034   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:迷圓周率, on Nov/29/2018    18:52:37 (IP code: X.X.101.175)
  >He proposed to elect KO the President. 

This is what I see at this moment for 2020 presidential election,the odds of winning is optimal.

Do not forget there is only 15 months away.

And do not forget it takes lots of correct steps on the way like solving a chess endgame.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R035   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/29/2018    19:06:52 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 That's foolish. That'll destroy the very integrity of a Party.

Let's not talk about it any more.
I don't think it's a good idea to argue this with a foreign resident.

I have to go now. See you. And good night.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R036   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:迷圓周率, on Nov/29/2018    19:12:23 (IP code: X.X.101.175)
 One more word...

Just today, the dismal of GM ms.Wu is the first step.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R037   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/30/2018    09:57:40 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 >Just today, the dismal of GM ms.Wu is the first step.

For what and to where? Doesn't make sense to me.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R038   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/30/2018    10:12:05 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 >After the deciding defeat, Chinese Human players (among them, even Masters) tried to imitate AlphaGO's "abnormal" moves.

However, I must add, they are bound to fail.

Those young Cina masters just think it's cool to do, yet those "abnormal" moves by AlphaGo are really backed up by its unhuman super computing power. Without the kind of computing power, human players are simply not able to carry out that kind of moves.

The teacher of those Masters once called those moves played by his students (1 of them ranked world No.1) out of the imitation "sick!" ("臭棋" in Chinese). I think he is a wise man, 聶衛平.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R039   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/30/2018    10:17:08 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 >Those young Cina masters just think it's cool to do

Its only use is probably to scare the opponent, for the time being.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R040   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/30/2018    10:21:14 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 >Do not forget there is only 15 months away.

Right. Thanks for reminding.

So. It's in fact not much a "mid-term election", the one we just had, at least in the American sense.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R041   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/30/2018    11:30:26 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 嗨 欄主, 這少年的 要搬去你們那裏. 請多照顧. ^^

"基進黨年輕戰將陳柏惟2018九合一選舉前,因為嗆「韓國瑜若當選」他就要搬離高雄一一夕爆紅,部份網友還封他是抗韓戰將、抗韓先鋒。如今韓國瑜成功當選了高雄市長,陳柏惟就立刻兌現當初的承諾,26日他就前往屏東找房子準備搬家,但他也強調自己一定會再回到高雄的。"

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Record ID: 1543453003R042   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Nov/30/2018    19:47:35 (IP code: X.X.203.22)
 我了解為何迷桑要"偷偷"告訴, 因為你本來不是要投這個 (議員部分).
You changed your mind/choice after a chat with other voter of the same district. ^^

沒甚麼. It's perfectly O.K. to freely choose your favorite candidate.
 

Record ID: 1543453003R043   From: 台灣

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