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中华复兴: 世界第一电子公司

發言人:TZ, on Dec/13/2018    15:26:52 (IP code: X.X.74.169)
 

哪间公司是世界第一的电子公司?苹果?不是。三星?不是。索尼?更不是,现在的索尼,屁都不是。

世界第一的电子公司,是中国的华为。

 

Record ID: 1544686012   From: 澳洲

回應貼文太多,中間略過,看全文請按這裡

回信 發言人:PLAN, on Dec/13/2018    16:34:28 (IP code: X.X.6.202)
 呆巴懂个屁
知道啥叫SEP不?
 

Record ID: 1544686012R032   From: 新加坡

回信 發言人:挖地雷, on Dec/13/2018    16:34:47 (IP code: X.X.179.119)
 > 第一,华为拥有最多的5G专利。占5G专利总数的50%。

請問華為 5G 設備的主 IC 是會用誰家的?
 

Record ID: 1544686012R033   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:奇異果, on Dec/13/2018    16:35:23 (IP code: X.X.5.191)
 中興事件是霸道,孟晚舟事件則是過份
什麼長臂管轄?玩法弄權嘛
你玩別人也會玩~~~~~~~~~
 

Record ID: 1544686012R034   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:挖地雷, on Dec/13/2018    16:37:27 (IP code: X.X.179.119)
 > 知道啥叫SEP不?

  Self Education Program?
 

Record ID: 1544686012R035   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:NorthStar, on Dec/13/2018    16:39:46 (IP code: X.X.122.242)
 >>美国要动用国家的力量来对付一家电子公司,绑架事件连续十几天占据世界媒体的头条,让美国股市暴跌上千点。

這個好,趕快跟美國斷交,美國經濟就立即崩潰了!
 

Record ID: 1544686012R036   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:vvvv, on Dec/13/2018    16:41:36 (IP code: X.X.63.30)
 031

世界上除了中國外,其他超強大國沒有你說的問題

資金,人力都不是問題

掌握上層專利技術只要授權研發生產,大把鈔票憑空而來

野蠻的中國完全漠視這個地球潛規則,不思自行研發,就光會抄襲偷竊山寨......

導致被世界各國貿易報復圍毆

活該!
 

Record ID: 1544686012R037   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:PLAN, on Dec/13/2018    16:42:42 (IP code: X.X.6.202)
 >Self Education Program?

好吧,我承认我在个人修养方面还需要这个,不是这里说的是“标准必要专利”standard essential patent啦

FNiCxf.jpg
 

Record ID: 1544686012R038   From: 新加坡

回信 發言人:奇異果, on Dec/13/2018    16:45:16 (IP code: X.X.5.191)
 現在,全球產業分工
一刀切,根本行不通
很多人還活在冷戰~~~~~~~~~時代?
呵呵
 

Record ID: 1544686012R039   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:PLAN转, on Dec/13/2018    16:55:56 (IP code: X.X.6.202)
 作者:朱坤
链接:https://www.zhihu.com/question/55760101/answer/146137121
来源:知乎
著作权归作者所有。商业转载请联系作者获得授权,非商业转载请注明出处。

所谓标准必要专利,是指要达到某一行业标准的要求而必须使用的专利。 举个例子来说吧,我们都知道啥是椅子,基本描述是这样的,有支撑腿,有靠背,用于坐的器具。这三个特征的聚合就可以看作标准必要专利。因为没靠背的是凳子,没支撑腿的是沙发,不用来坐的,我也不知道叫啥。╮(╯3╰)╭既然想做一把椅子,可以做三条腿,四条腿,单腿也行,靠背弯的,直的也行,这些的构成都不影响被认定成椅子。这些可以看成非必要标准专利。对持有影响产品认定的标准必要专利持有人而言,杀伤力对行业是决定性的,因为不按照标准必要专利生产产品的话,产品就无法实现或进入市场。所以为了商业繁荣,标准必要专利的持有人必须按照“公平、合理、非歧视”的原则对涉及该专利的企业强制授权。强制授权意味着标准必要专利不能用于打击同行业的竞争者。竞争者需要也得给授权。这在一定程度上防止了社会公众产品出现代差和标准必要持有人形成市场垄断地位。例如4G通讯的技术,千元机也能4G通讯,旗舰机也能4G通讯。”公平、合理、非歧视“的授权原则主要相关是授权费用的问题,简单的说,标准必要专利的授权费率不能”看人下菜碟“,也不是想多高就多高,既让专利持有人有钱赚,又不压迫专利实施者的利润空间或影响其商业策略的实施。
 

Record ID: 1544686012R040   From: 新加坡

回信 發言人:PLAN, on Dec/13/2018    17:02:09 (IP code: X.X.6.202)
 https://www.zhihu.com/question/304849456/answer/547046887

 

Record ID: 1544686012R041   From: 新加坡

回信 發言人:郭芙, on Dec/13/2018    17:11:03 (IP code: X.X.152.155)
 呵呵,Plan贴的这个东西好。TZ咋没声了?那50% 5G专利好像数量级上Off。

华为的优势,我想,和高通相比,在成本上。另外华为的速度快,operation的效率更高。
 

Record ID: 1544686012R042   From: 美國

回信 發言人:, on Dec/13/2018    19:25:16 (IP code: X.X.244.121)
 共產黨義和團與西方國家為敵,好日子要完了...................... 

Record ID: 1544686012R043   From: 塞席爾

回信 發言人:笑看, on Dec/13/2018    20:47:28 (IP code: X.X.133.109)
 
< a href=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtdKnMVs7Cc>日媒爆出重大證據:拆開華為設備發現多餘的間諜竊密零件 世界震驚^^
 

Record ID: 1544686012R044   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:笑看, on Dec/13/2018    20:49:00 (IP code: X.X.133.109)
 
日媒爆出重大證據:拆開華為設備發現多餘的間諜竊密零件 世界震驚^^
 

Record ID: 1544686012R045   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:笑看, on Dec/13/2018    21:23:26 (IP code: X.X.37.192)
 
http://a4112.pixnet.net/blog/post/24161413-%E6%B3%95%E4%BA%BA%E7%A4%BA%E8%AD%A6-%E8%8F%AF%E7%82%BA%E4%BE%9B%E6%87%89%E9%8F%88%E6%9C%89%E6%86%82%28%E8%8F%AF%E7%82%BA%29

「最全供應鏈名單」在此(華為)

^^
 

Record ID: 1544686012R046   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:挖地雷, on Dec/13/2018    21:34:01 (IP code: X.X.203.71)
 

5G Glimpse Shows Glitz and Warts Cellular race to market is really a marathon
By Rick Merritt, 12.05.18

WAILEA, Hawaii — For a few hours on Tuesday, 5G cellular was live — warts and all — in two ballrooms of a resort hotel here. Ericsson set up the network at a Qualcomm event to give press and analysts a first look at what its new chipsets will enable.

Samsung showed an early version of its first 5G smartphone streaming 4K video to a large-screen TV. Motorola demoed a 5G upgrade module that attached to its LTE smartphone to download a gigabyte movie in 17 seconds.

Inseego showed a mobile 5G hotspot that it will launch at CES for Verizon’s network. And AT&T demoed a prototype for a cool augmented-reality app requiring fast nets to download hundreds of Mbytes of content to a handset.

So far, it’s a mixed bag of blessings and curses. For example, the demos were cool, but there were few of them.

Tests of millimeter-wave services are going better than expected, said carriers. In addition, handset makers have an unnamed alternative supplier of mmWave RF front ends beyond the module that Qualcomm announced in July.

Plenty of 5G handsets are in the works, but most won’t be available until sometime next year. The lack of support for frequency duplex division in the current 5G modems is delaying deployment in sub-6-GHz bands until late 2019 for AT&T and possibly other carriers.

Data rates for the first batch of handsets will likely be limited to a few hundred Mbits/s as carriers work toward Gbit and, ultimately, multi-Gbit goals. Meanwhile, vendors are working on consumer-friendly metrics to help users set their expectations.

Many vendors are racing to market in the next few months. But 5G will be more of a marathon than a sprint with the full build-out and payoff years away.

All three carriers in South Korea officially launched services over the weekend, dubbing Dec. 1 as “5G Day.” AT&T is next, having promised a 2018 rollout based on a first cut of the 3GPP’s standard released in June.

In the past, carriers had about 18 months to gear up services after a cellular standard was frozen. This time around, vendors lobbied 3GPP to create a quick-to-market version of the spec that they could drive into networks quickly.

AT&T’s self-declared deadline of six months from a final draft spec to a live network created a unique challenge.

“I told [management] that I want every day that’s left in the year,” said Gordon Mansfield, an AT&T vice president who helped set and oversee the carrier’s 5G plans. “The equipment is literally coming off of production lines and going into the field — we are not even using normal shipping channels.”

Carriers report better-than-expected reach with millimeter-wave signals, but the data rates that they deliver are still far below their multi-Gbit potential.

“We were assuming that if we mounted radios at a certain height on poles, we could reach a sixth-floor apartment with 28 GHz,” said Nicki Palmer, chief networking officer at Verizon in an interview. “It turned out we got close to the 19th floor, and when that came to light, that changed our thinking” about costs and deployments.

Carriers are discovering to their delight that reflected signals extend the reach of millimeter waves.

“Urban canyons that were a nightmare in sub-6[-GHz] bands now are your friend,” said Mansfield of AT&T. “Bank shots are very real and extend your coverage for millimeter wave,” he added, noting that AT&T will initially use mmWaves to deliver mobile broadband services to handsets.

Unfortunately, those mmWaves are not initially hitting 5G’s promise of multi-gigabit data rates.

Verizon showed a video here boasting its fixed-wireless services delivering, in some cases, 780 Mbits/s to 1.04 Gbits/s. However, it officially promises just 300 Mbits/s.

“Users are routinely experiencing much higher rates [than 300 Mbits/s], and we’re closing in on a Gbit,” said Palmer.

For perspective, EE Ltd., a cellular carrier in the U.K., typically delivers about 150 Mbits/s over its existing LTE network, although in best-case scenarios, it has clocked it above 700 Mbits/s, said an EE executive. Qualcomm has, for some time, claimed a capability to support Gbit/s LTE with plans to double that rate.

Cellular vendors are working out simple metrics to communicate to consumers what performance levels to expect on evolving LTE and 5G networks. They are likely to use something akin to the new metrics that the Wi-Fi Alliance released in October for 802.11.

Representatives of AT&T, EE Ltd., and Verizon declined to share information on their expected 5G data rates and prices before their official launches.

“Not long ago, we talked about 5G handsets coming in 2023,” said Palmer of Verizon, which launched fixed-access services in October in four cities and plans a mobile broadband launch next year. “This year, it changed to seeing them definitely in 2019 — it’s just a matter of what month.”

AT&T will launch limited mobile broadband services with “low-single-digit” numbers of handsets by the end of the year. Samsung showed a single 5G handset that it will use on AT&T, Verizon, and South Korean networks that will support 28- and 39-GHz mmWave bands, but it won’t be ready until sometime early next year.

The Samsung handset uses Qualcomm’s recently announced Snapdragon 855, a 7-nm integrated applications processor, along with its X50 5G modem. A Samsung representative would not say whose mmWave RF front end the handset uses.

At the event, Samsung showed a version of the phone that it said was not its final form factor. In November, it showed plans for a foldable phone that it will release in 2019, but it gave no details of its specs. The South Korean giant will supply a second 5G handset in the second half of 2019 to AT&T, supporting its mmWave and sub-6-GHz nets.

For its part, Motorola showed a 5G clip-on for its Moto Z family, exclusive to Verizon’s network. It also uses the Snapdragon 855 and X50. It includes a 2,000-mAh battery and supports 28-GHz mmWaves with antennas in all four corners so that hands won’t block signals.

Inseego showed a mobile 5G hotspot roughly the size and weight of a hockey puck with USB and Ethernet ports. The device, exclusive to Verizon’s network, uses the Snapdragon 855 and X50 chips, supports mmWaves, and will be available in 2019.

The Inseego product, to be formally launched at CES, looked like a similar mobile 5G hotspot that NetGear is making exclusively for AT&T.
 

Record ID: 1544686012R047   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:笑看, on Dec/13/2018    22:20:02 (IP code: X.X.85.151)
 
挖大

R047
Carriers are discovering to their delight that reflected signals extend the reach of millimeter waves.

>>

反射信號可以擴展毫米波滴範圍,不知能否完全禰補或取代5G信號繞射範圍與距離滴弱項及短處?

^^
 

Record ID: 1544686012R048   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:挖地雷, on Dec/14/2018    16:37:10 (IP code: X.X.179.119)
   大概要看能 extend 到什麼程度,他們也在摸索中。 

Record ID: 1544686012R049   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:笑看, on Dec/14/2018    22:55:14 (IP code: X.X.149.191)
 
樂見科技突破,造福全人類。

^^
 

Record ID: 1544686012R050   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:BDS, on Dec/16/2018    05:07:04 (IP code: X.X.43.206)
 沒有,.....0⋯⋯一點沒錯,就是零!


個人電腦不是有聯想

手機不是有華為小米OPPO

家電不是有海爾
 

Record ID: 1544686012R051   From: 台灣

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