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經濟學人等外國學者對台灣的看法

發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    14:12:59 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 經濟學人,歐洲人

整天憂心中國侵略台灣民主,卻又不出力幫忙
這邊怪台灣,那邊也怪台灣

來算一下

2300萬人不能大力發展,因為人生一部分要支持獨立
一部分要挺美國利益
這樣扣一扣,台灣人給自己的人生選擇就不多
這些外國人整天看中國要弄垮台灣民主,卻不願幫忙
這些人一直是中國的幫兇,殘害民主,他們也是有份
他們沒有比中國高尚
但是他們永遠只是站在旁觀者的立場,對台灣指指點點,看了令人厭惡

 

Record ID: 1547187179   From: 台灣

回應貼文太多,中間略過,看全文請按這裡

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    14:35:42 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 而且我針對也只是對歐洲人很感冒
那些歐洲人只會講風涼話,不是男人
 

Record ID: 1547187179R006   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    14:42:33 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 歐洲人只會講風涼話
台灣這種要獨不獨的,只會讓中國更強大
一旦台灣淪陷,歐洲下跪向中國稱臣的日子不遠
 

Record ID: 1547187179R007   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:c4, on Jan/11/2019    15:18:13 (IP code: X.X.105.119)
 狗黨應負一切責任~ 

Record ID: 1547187179R008   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    15:27:41 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 全美同鄉會力挺蔡
團結才能保台,讚
 

Record ID: 1547187179R009   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Jan/11/2019    15:34:42 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 001,3
這麼期待男生. 最好你是個女的, 大家才可能懂你的意思.

不過[福爾摩沙]原是母系社會. 你的女生表現, 似乎不是很本土.
 

Record ID: 1547187179R010   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:ace, on Jan/11/2019    15:35:41 (IP code: X.X.229.47)
 https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/the-economists-the-world-in-2019-is-full-of-cryptic-messages/

https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/economist-2015-cover-filled-cryptic-symbols-dire-predictions/

https://new.euro-med.dk/20161214-the-economist-the-elites-tarots-2017-rothschilds-scaremongering.php
 

Record ID: 1547187179R011   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Jan/11/2019    15:38:06 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 你故作"嬌弱"的女生表現, 似乎不是很本土.  

Record ID: 1547187179R012   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:ace, on Jan/11/2019    15:46:13 (IP code: X.X.229.47)
 「在我聲音的範圍內、無人不知此國被國際銀行家支配」
"There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers"
~Rep. Louis T. McFadden ( 1876 – 1936) 下院議員及下院銀行及通貨委員會的會長

「今日、一美元購入約一世紀前的3%。約97%在惡德銀行家的掌中。惡德銀行家多少非常勤勉地從你的金錢引離你」
"Today, a dollar purchases 3% of what it did just over a century ago. The 97% went into the pockets of the banksters. The banksters have been working diligently for quite some time to separate you from your money."

「對於大部分的米國國民、常勤勞動不再有報酬。米國之夢(繁榮機會之理想)是無意味的及被埋葬的」
"For Most Americans, It no longer pays to go to work full time. The American dream is dead and buried."

「米國是貧困的、無教養的、及完全不知憲法的權利、如何在日々基礎上、被銀行家強奪之我々犯罪政府奪去」
"America is poor, uneducated and is totally ignorant of the constitutional liberties being taken away on a daily basis by our criminal government which has been hijacked by the bankers."

「國家安全保障局、中央調查局、連邦搜查局、國稅廳、及國土安全保障省非你的友人... 彼不可否定的任務、是從你及你被予期怠慢受入在此國中以行政的押上戒嚴令之形延伸的暴政、保護全世界的精銳層」
"The NSA, CIA, FBI, IRS and the DHS are not your friend... Their undeniable mission is to protect the global elite from you and your anticipated failure to submit to the tyranny being rolled out across the country in the form of an administratively imposed martial law."

「普丁、類似歐巴馬、被惡德銀行家支配、及彼竊盜露國人的退職年金之意願、是此陳述 活發的證明」
"Putin is as controlled by the banksters as is President Obama and his intended theft of Russian retirement accounts is living proof of this statement."

「連邦政府及彼根據於瑞士北西部都市的銀行家魁儡操縱者、所有礦產業及能源的賃借權、及從此受取特許權、賃貸、及賞與納付」
"The federal government and its Basel-based bankster puppeteers own the rights to mineral and energy leases, from which they receive royalties, rents, and bonus payments"
~David Hodges thecommonsenseshow.com 『常識說明』

「『支配階級』之語、是指在國際金融、商業、專業及政府、主要從北東部由來的、既勿論誰在白宮、行使大部分權力的選拔層之一般用語。大部分的人、不知此『合法的組織暴力團』之存在」
"The word 'Establishment' is a general term for the power elite in international finance, business, the professions and government, largely from the northeast, who wield most of the power regardless of who is in the White House. Most people are unaware of the existence of this 'legitimate Mafia.'"
~Edith Kermit Roosevelt ELITE CLIQUE HOLDS POWER IN U.S. 23.12.1961『合眾國持有權力之被選拔排他的集團』

「合眾國政府是否一財團/金融犯罪組織? 此是一樣樣犯罪組織的複合企業」
"Is United States government a corporate / banking criminal enterprise? It is a conglomerate of various criminal enterprises."

「1900年以來、我國一直選舉出魁儡、既國際銀行家開始實際支配政府時」
"We have elected puppets ever since 1900, when the bankers really took control."
~Eustace Mullins ZIONIST ANTICHRIST WILL RULE THE NWO 『猶太神之選民主義的反基督必然統治新世界秩序』

「合眾國被投入一皇帝的近衛兵之任務、敵對第三世界之氣難分子、保衛國際金融家族位階的利益」
"...... the United States [is] cast in the role of Praetorian Guard, protecting the interests of the global financial order against fractious elements in the Third World."
~John R. Stockwell (born 1937) former CIA officer 元中央情報局職員

「但、帝國僅是一工具、一消耗用乘物。亞米利加帝國之崩壞來臨、實際上、必然許可資金力切望的世界性專制之權勢」
"But the Empire is just a tool, an expendable vehicle. The coming destruction of the American Empire will in fact allow the ascendancy of the Money Power’s coveted global despotism."
~realcurrencies.wordpress.com THE US EMPIRE IS NOT THE MONEY POWER! 『合眾國的帝國非資金力的!』

「我悲傷的說、政治上不便承認每人周知的: 既伊拉克戰爭主要是為了石油」
"I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil."
~Alan Greenspan, 元連邦準備理事會會長 THE AGE OF TURBULENCE 『亂暴時代』

「石油美元体制、或更簡單的、既知是一"石油交換美元"体制、作成一在世界中當面人為的對美元之需要」
"This petrodollar system, or more simply known as an “oil for dollars” system, created an immediate artificial demand for U.S. dollars around the globe".
~Jerry Robinson PREPARING FOR THE COLLAPSE OF THE PETRODOLLAR SYSTEM 『準備石油美元体制之破綻』

「在合眾國、一部商業及製造業相當的大人物、恐畏某人或某事。彼知在某處有一如此組織的、陰險的、警戒的、連動的、完備的、浸透性的勢力、促使彼在痛罵中、不得不在宣言中止息。彼知米國不再是往昔的場所、既一人可依彼的能力之限許可、選擇及追續彼自身的天職; 因為今日、假定彼參入特定的領域、必然有組織使用手段反對他、妨礙他確立彼不望設立的事業; 既促使彼的基礎崩壞及市場對彼閉鎖的組織。因為假定彼開始向特定小賣業者、既任何小賣業者、販賣時、獨占組合必然拒否販賣給賣買業者、及以上商人必然在恐怖中不購入新人的商品」
"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. They know that America is not a place of which it can be said, as it used to be, that a man may choose his own calling and pursue it just as far as his abilities enable him to pursue it; because today, if he enters certain fields, there are organizations which will use means against him that will prevent his building up a business which they do not want to have built up; organizations that will see to it that the ground is cut from under him and the markets shut against him. For if he begins to sell to certain retail dealers, to any retail dealers, the monopoly will refuse to sell to those dealers, and those dealers, afraid, will not buy the new man's wares."

「一偉大的工業國被信用体制支配。我國的信用体制是集中的。故、我國的成長、及全部我々活動是在數人之手中。我國已成為文明世界中一最惡支配、一最完全被抑制及制御的政府。不再是一自由意見的政府、不再是一大多數確信及投票的政府、但、是一被有力支配的小集團之見解及脅迫的政府」
"A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
~Woodrow Wilson (1856-1924) 28th US President THE NEW FREEDOM, 1916 『新自由』

「此法案、確立此世最巨大的信託....在大統領署名此法案時、一被金錢力支配的隱密政府、被金錢信託調查證明存在的、必然合法化...此新法律必然在信託所望的場合常引起通貨膨張...今後、景氣不況將被科學的作成」
"This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth....When the President signs this Act, the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust Investigation, will be legalized....The new law will create inflation whenever the trust wants inflation....From now on, depression will be scientifically created."
~Charles August Lindbergh Sr. 1859 – 1924 United States Congressman 米國連邦議會議員

「在合眾國、實質的、有2政府....我々有一順當設立的政府...之後...我々有一獨立的、不被抑制的、及不被調整的連邦準備制度之政府、管理被憲法給予議會專用之金錢力」
"In the united States we have, in effect, two governments....We have the duly constituted Government....Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are reserved to Congress by the Constitution."
~Wright Patman, on the House floor, 1967 下院銀行及通貨委員會議長在議場演說

「被徵收的100%被連邦負債的利子支出吸收...在1白銅貨耗費於納稅者期待政府服務之前、全部的個人所得稅收入已失去」
"100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Debt ... all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services taxpayers expect from government."
~Grace Commission report submitted to President Ronald Reagan 1984 向大統領提出的委員會報告書

「勿論如何、你是奴隸。每4月15日承認自身是奴隸! 此時、你「自發的」露出給政府你最個人的人生詳細! 僅少數的人理解所得稅是一從厲稅。此決不與一自由民族的生活有互換性」
"Like it or not, you are a slave. You admit you are a slave every April 15th! That's when you sign forms that "voluntarily" lay bare to the government the most private details of your life! And few people realize the income tax is a slave tax. It can never be compatible with the life of a free people".
~Alan Keyes (1950-) American conservative political activist 共和黨指名候補者
 

Record ID: 1547187179R013   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    15:53:05 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 temo,你有病就去看醫生,就醫治療

我是說歐洲人很會鬼叫,中國要弄垮台灣民主
卻從來不幫忙,站在邊看戲喊,不是男人

實話實說
 

Record ID: 1547187179R014   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    15:55:35 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 010,像你這種有妄想症的快去看醫生治療

只要有人說出不同想法,你就想去糾正,偏偏你沒講過任何道理

行為很左,令人想吐
 

Record ID: 1547187179R015   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    16:08:28 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 像經濟學人,成天哀嘆中國破壞台灣民主

怎不去向英國政府,建議和台灣建交,或加入國際組織

歐洲很多這種,沒死到他們,就出張嘴講講

台灣真的淪陷

歐洲就下跪向中國稱臣,他們還不是靠台灣抵抗中國從中獲得巨大利益
 

Record ID: 1547187179R016   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:ace, on Jan/11/2019    16:10:59 (IP code: X.X.229.47)
 控制英美的猶太金融財閥 喜愛台中紛爭 兩韓紛爭 日韓紛爭 中印紛爭 越中紛爭 漁翁得利
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洛斯查爾德家族的"戰爭"公式
1。戰爭是對政府一究極的規律。假定此可成功的滿足戰爭的挑戰、此可殘存。不可能的場合、此必然滅亡。其他全部是副的。此法律的尊嚴、此市民的繁榮、及國庫的支払能力必然在任何政府自己生存的根源行為上被犧牲
1. War is the ultimate discipline to any government. If it can successfully meet the challenge of war, it will survive. If it cannot, it will perish. All else is secondary. The sanctity of its laws, the prosperity of its citizens, and the solvency of its treasury will be quickly sacrificed by any government in its primal act of self-survival.
2。故、必要的、保証一政府維持或擴大彼的債務、是使政府巻入戰爭或戰爭的脅威。脅威越大及戰爭的破壞越大、債務的必要性越大
2. All that is necessary, therefore, to insure that a government will maintain or expand its debt is to involve it in war or the threat of war. The greater the threat and the more destructive the war, the greater the need for debt.
 3。為了一國卷入戰爭或戰爭的脅威、有必要持有一持有可信賴的軍事威力之敵。在此敵已存在的場合、越善。在彼存在但欠乏軍事力的場合、有必要提供構築戰爭機器的金錢。在敵不存在的場合、有必要通過融資作成一敵對政權的飛立
3. To involve a country in war or the threat of war, it will be necessary for it to have enemies with credible military might. If such enemies already exist, all the better. If they exist but lack military strength, it will be necessary to provide them the money to build their war machine. If an enemy does not exist at all, then it will be necessary to create one by financing the rise of a hostile regime.
4。究極的障害物是一拒否通過債務調達戰爭資金的政府。雖然此偶然的發生、在發生時、有必要獎勵內部政治的對立、暴動、或革命以置換一順從我等意志的政府
4. The ultimate obstacle is a government which declines to finance its wars through debt. Although this seldom happens, when it does, it will be necessary to encourage internal political opposition, insurrection, or revolution to replace that government with one that is more compliant to our will.
 5。無國家可被許可維持強於彼諸敵的軍事力、因為此可導向平和及一債務的削減。為了達成此權力均衡、有必要調達資金給予紛爭的兩側。除非一交戰國敵視我等利益、故、有必要被消滅、兩側之一不得取得決定的勝利或敗北。雖然我等有必要常宣言平和的美德、默言的目的是永遠的戰爭
5. No nation can be allowed to remain militarily stronger than its adversaries, for that could lead to peace and a reduction of debt. To accomplish this balance of power, it may be necessary to finance both sides of the conflict. Unless one of the combatants is hostile to our interests and, therefore, must be destroyed, neither side should be allowed a decisive victory or defeat. While we must always proclaim the virtues of peace, the unspoken objective is perpetual war.
~Edward Griffin THE CREATURE OF JEKYLL ISLAND: A 2ND LOOK AT THE FEDERAL RESERVE 『JEKYLL島的怪獸:連邦準備制度理事會之再一度確認』
 

Record ID: 1547187179R017   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    16:17:03 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 歐洲這麼大,卻靠一個台灣人選的女性總統,保護全世界
世紀笑話
 

Record ID: 1547187179R018   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Jan/11/2019    16:33:05 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 噗. 外化族. 

Record ID: 1547187179R019   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    16:47:08 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 現在當務之急,美國一定要力挺台灣
放台灣一個面對中國,整體實力差距太大,太危險
 

Record ID: 1547187179R020   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Jan/11/2019    17:14:17 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 你"11"也覺得小英很"男人"?

[時常批評政府的網紅「館長」陳之漢,這次大力稱讚總統的膽識,表示蔡英文「比男人還男人」。(圖擷取自飆悍臉書)]
 

Record ID: 1547187179R021   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    17:18:06 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 這次美國總統是川普,不然台灣gg
川普很明顯對台灣很友善,我是認為川普是美國最偉大的總統
 

Record ID: 1547187179R022   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Jan/11/2019    17:23:57 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
  原來 "11" 是你的年紀. 懂了!!

See you around, kid. I have to go. BYE.
 

Record ID: 1547187179R023   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:11, on Jan/11/2019    17:58:11 (IP code: X.X.117.146)
 柯文哲要積極表態挺蔡英文
多助攻政府,最近柯的表現不錯,有替政府加分
 

Record ID: 1547187179R024   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Jan/12/2019    11:15:02 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 KO'd better behave. 他最好乖一點. 

Record ID: 1547187179R025   From: 台灣

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