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臺灣的問題就是銀行穩賺不賠

發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    10:26:26 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 請問有那個行業是穩賺不賠的,各行各業竟竟業業,辛苦成這樣都還會虧錢了,銀行竟然都穩賺不賠? 

Record ID: 1547778386   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    10:28:28 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 吸淨民間勞動收入資金,尤甚是過去還有高達13趴至二十趴都有。 

Record ID: 1547778386R001   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Jan/18/2019    10:28:52 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 通國庫? 

Record ID: 1547778386R002   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    10:30:47 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 任何自由經濟活動應該就像賭博一樣,應該雙方都要有採地雷與獲大獎的獲然率 

Record ID: 1547778386R003   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    10:32:34 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 這就是臺灣假自由經濟,而行寡頭經濟之實 

Record ID: 1547778386R004   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:摸咪郎, on Jan/18/2019    10:35:40 (IP code: X.X.88.235)
 

今天你要罵誰?



摸咪郎

 

Record ID: 1547778386R005   From: 美國

回信 發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    10:36:39 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 所以經濟也要行轉型正義,這也是小英英政府沒有做到,人民感覺不到的地方,過去超收貸不合理利率的,全要還給民眾。 

Record ID: 1547778386R006   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:小台北, on Jan/18/2019    10:39:34 (IP code: X.X.135.126)
 看到人家風光的一面,也要看看落魄的那一邊。

中興銀、台東企銀,還有中華商銀都是被掏空被迫倒閉甚至被兼併的銀行,沒有穩賺不賠的行業,不要想太多。
 

Record ID: 1547778386R007   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    10:42:14 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 經濟發展的果實因概是全民共享,而不是寡頭財閥獨享,而經濟建設的投入,決不是誰財力雄厚,而是誰能提供最有智慧永續經濟發展的點子與創新。 

Record ID: 1547778386R008   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    10:43:57 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 你那個叫內神統外鬼,金錢大挪移 

Record ID: 1547778386R009   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:小台北, on Jan/18/2019    10:47:59 (IP code: X.X.135.126)
 >你那個叫內神統外鬼,金錢大挪移

呃,游淮銀搞爛台東企銀這我同意,中華商銀可不是吧?再說,你講的是「穩賺不賠」,哪個行業是「穩賺不賠」?中華商銀不就很無辜嗎?^^
 

Record ID: 1547778386R010   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Shit, on Jan/18/2019    11:28:17 (IP code: X.X.159.107)
 


你倆各執一詞, 角度不同, 但都算正確.


 

Record ID: 1547778386R011   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:軍事眼, on Jan/18/2019    13:58:12 (IP code: X.X.117.119)
 銀行的功能應該是有某種調控經濟的義務與責任,而不是成為吸食勞動力資金的怪獸,當然也不竟然要銀行當慈善機構,但是銀行對經濟的功能現在需要好好思考一下走向。社會的公平與正義當然就是要放在金錢中開始轉型正義,只有實質上的金錢正義,讓小老百姓過上勞智付出能有回饋,國家才能永續長遠, 

Record ID: 1547778386R012   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:ace, on Jan/18/2019    14:21:43 (IP code: X.X.229.47)
 「誰制御一國的貨幣量、誰是一切法律及商業的主人」
"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is the master of all its legislation and commerce."
~James A. Garfield, 1831-1881 合眾國的第20代大統領

「給我一國貨幣的支配權、我就不關心誰制定法律」
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."
~Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744 -1812), Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel 歐州金融王朝的教父

「銀行有從無作成的金錢取得利息的恩惠」
“The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing.”
~William Paterson 1694年英國銀行的創設者、昔私有銀行

「 我恐一般市民不喜好被說明銀行可以行使練金術。及誰制御一國的信用貸指揮政府的政策、彼的手中空虛握有一民族的運命」
“I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people.”
~Reginald McKenna, Chairman of the Midland Bank, 1924. 銀行會長、1924年向株主講演

「在一政府依存於銀行家的金錢時、銀行家、非政府的指導者制御狀況、因為施惠之手在受惠之手之上…金錢無祖國、金融業者無愛國心及無良知、彼唯一的目的是獲利」
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
~Napoleon Bonaparte, 佛蘭西皇帝、1815

「過去2世紀之間、世界的諸民族徐々從君主制王朝勝取彼政治的自由時、歐米諸國主要的銀行家族實際上逆轉此傾向、通過國際的金融連合体之編成、設立政治支配之新王朝。以上的銀行家王朝、熟知全部政府必然有在緊急事態時借入的財源。彼也習得、通過彼自身私的資源提供資金、彼可促使君主及民主主義的指導者兩方、對彼的意志非常卑屈」
"During the past two centuries when the peoples of the world were gradually winning their political freedom from the dynastic monarchies, the major banking families of Europe and America were actually reversing the trend by setting up new dynasties of political control through the formation of international financial combines. These banking dynasties had learned that all governments must have sources of revenue from which to borrow in times of emergency. They had also learned that by providing such funds from their own private resources, they could make both kings and democratic leaders tremendously subservient to their will."
~Carroll Quigley TRAGEDY AND HOPE (1966) 『悲劇及希望』
「對外國的融資被倫敦市組織及配置、全然不思案此國的福祉、但單單為了增大債務、既促使此都市繁榮及裕富的…」
"Loans to foreign countries are organised and arranged by the City of London with no thought whatsoever of the nation's welfare but solely in order to increase indebtedness upon which the City thrives and grows rich..."
~Vincent Cartwright Vickers 1879-1939 British economist 英國經濟學者

「“Rothschild’体制‘自体也是潛在的革命的“ 、因為“ 此所有宗教已失去的道德之力、故此可替代宗教—的確地、此是一新宗教、及在舊宗教[基督教]最後沉下的場合、此必然不思議的提供實際的祝福之替代品、再度的、是猶太人發行此新興宗教」
“the Rothschild ‘system’ is also potentially revolutionary in itself ” because since it “possesses the moral force or power which religion has lost, it can act as a surrogate for religion—indeed, it is a new religion, and when the old religion [Christianity] finally goes under it will provide substitutes for its practical blessings strangely enough, it is once again the Jews who invented this new religion.”
~Heinrich Heine, 1797-1856 猶太詩人、記者、隨筆家及文藝評論家

「全部已見Rothschild家族在1850年所有500億。在每年5%利率上、此財產今值一兆、在每年8%利率上、Rothschild家族今值數百兆」
"We have all seen that Rothschild was worth 50 billion in 1850. At 5% per year, this fortune would now be a trillion, at 8% per year Rothschild would now be worth hundreds of trillions."
~realcurrencies.wordpress.com CAPITALISM IS JEWISH USURY 『資本主義是猶太式高利貸』

「 少數理解此体制的人、對此利益有興趣或如此依存於彼的恩惠、必然無反對之聲從彼的階級發出、他方、人群的大多數、頭腦上無能力理解資本從此体制派生的莫大利點、必然在不告訴下堪耐彼的負擔、甚至不疑問此体制是如此反彼自身的利益」
“The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.”
~Rothschild of London writing to associates in New York, 1863. 猶太人超金融家族向仲間的書信

「平均、每年​​你的家族被抽出5000元以上、非為了提供政府的服務、或償還以前的借金。此不生成任何之物、道路或政府的建物。此不出任何福祉或醫療給付。此不支付任何給予。一國的生活水準不被提昇。此無作用、除了支付利息以外」
"On average, over $5,000 is extracted from your family each year, not to provide government services or even to pay off previous debt. Nothing is produced by it, not even roads or government buildings. No welfare or medical benefits come out of it. No salaries are paid by it. The nation's standard of living is not raised by it. It does nothing except pay interest."
~G. Edward Griffin The Creature From Jekyll Island 『JEKYLL島的怪獸』

「通過以上手段、政府可能秘密的及不被觀測的、沒收人々之富、及萬人中無一人可察知此竊盜」
"By this means government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft"
~John Maynard Keynes 1883-1946 英國經濟學者、編集者、投資家

「左翼、包含共産主義者、通常、奉仕為國際金融家有益的愚者… 」
"The Left, including the communists have generally served as the useful idiots of international capital ..."
~henrymakow.com LEFT "USEFUL IDIOTS" OF THE RICH 『左派 大富豪之役立愚者』

「泡沫的投機、對市場參加者的大多數非常有害。彼失去金錢、少數派獲得利益」
"bubbles are very destructive to the majority of market participants. They lose money, the minority makes money"
~Marc Faber (born February 28, 1946) Swiss investor 瑞士投資者

「大恐慌及好況/不況循環全然是人為的現象。初期、銀行家單純以喚回融資作成通貨收縮。今日、事物是微少複雜、但打碎通貨供給依然是主要之物。金融派生商品是今日優先選擇的方法」
"Depressions and the boom/bust cycle are wholly artificial phenomena. In earlier days, Bankers created deflations simply by calling in loans. Nowadays things are a little more complicated, but crashing the money supply is still the main thing. Derivatives are today’s preferred method."
~realcurrencies.wordpress.com DERIVATIVES『金融派生商品: 或財資作成最大經濟不況的方法』

「最初、通過通貨膨張、之後、通過通貨緊縮、在銀行家的周圍成長的銀行及有限會社必然略奪人々的財產、一直至彼的子孫起床、發見自己在祖先征服的大陸無家可歸」
"first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the bankers] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquererd"

「近代之債務永續化的理論已使土地浸透著血、及在一不絕地堆積的負擔下壓榨彼的住民」
"...The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating."
~Thomas Jefferson (American 3rd US President (1801-09) 合眾國的憲法制定者 第3代大統領

「債務是奴隸監督的鎖及鞭之一獨創的代替品」
“Debt is an ingenious substitute for the chain and whip of the slave driver.”
~Ambrose Bierce (1842-1913) 論說員、記者、短篇小說作家、寓話作者、風刺家

「說我國可發行3千萬元的債劵、但非3千萬元的貨幣、是不合理的。兩方是支付的約束、但1約束肥育高利貸者、1約束救助眾人」
"It is absurd to say that our country can issue $30 million in bonds and not $30 million in currency. Both are promises to pay, but 1 promise fattens the usurers and the other helps the people."
~Thomas Edison American Inventor 1847-1931 發明家、世界初工業研究所之創始者

「名目貨幣的使用在景氣不況比較戰爭融資更正當」
"the use of fiat money is more justifiable in financing a depression than in financing a war."

「銀行家給予政府的助言、類似彼給予實業家的助言、一貫的有利於銀行家、但往往對政府、實業家、及一般人壞滅的悲慘」
"the advice given to governments by bankers, like the advice they gave to industrialists, was consistently good for bankers, but was often disastrous for governments, businessmen, and the people generally."
~Carroll Quigley 1910–1977 American historian 歷史家及文明進化的理論家

「宇宙全体、在信用貸制度上運行、及在基於以上的相互信賴崩壞的場合、此自己必然即時倒折。正當或不當的、此依存於信仰...信仰衰退時、一基於信仰的体制同時崩壞」
"The whole universe is carried on on the credit system, and if the mutual confidence on which it is based were to collapse, it must itself collapse immediately. Just or unjust, it lives by faith... when faith fails, a system based on faith fails also."
~Samuel Butler 1835-1902 Ramblings In Cheapside (1890) 英國小說家、隨筆家、評論家
 

Record ID: 1547778386R013   From: 台灣

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