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屏東又有驕傲的事了! 網友:原來這麼會還錢

發言人:Golden, on Mar/21/2019    04:52:15 (IP code: X.X.53.63)
 屏東又有驕傲的事了! 網友:原來這麼會還錢
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/politics/breakingnews/2733644
2019-03-20 20:42
〔記者羅欣貞/屏東報導〕回應網友「做事應該發佈」的要求,屏東縣長潘孟安今晚(20日)在臉書寫下另一件「值得驕傲的事」,那就是屏東4年來減債達106.93億元,「全台唯一」連續4年歲入大於歲出且年年正成長縣市。


屏東縣長潘孟安在臉書分享減債成果。(取自潘孟安臉書)
潘孟安在臉書表示,不舉新債還舊債,建設更不能等待,屏東4年來減債達106.93億元;他還幫大家整理出5個重點,「1.屏東4年來減債達106.93億元、2.短債88.61億「全數歸零」、長債償還18.32億元、4.「全台唯一」連續4年歲入大於歲出且年年正成長縣市、5.總預算仍年年遞增全力建設。
潘孟安還說,曾經,屏東縣財政被評為葉克膜等級,上任後和團隊訂下目標,「不舉新債還舊債,建設更不能等待」,堅守財政紀律,用拚搏精神,全力減債拚建設。
他在臉書還指出「我常說:走進廚房才知冷熱,縣政就像持家,必須精打細算,屏東財政拮据,先天的統籌分配不均,加上後天的城鄉發展差距,債務確實是嚴峻考驗,我們選擇直接面對。」。
他更表示「出身偏鄉,深知資源不足不是理由,愈是艱難愈要克服,團隊開源節流突破困境, 4年來長短債已減106.93億元,短債更從88.61億歸零,長債從190.22億元降為171.9億元,大幅節省債務利息。
其實,屏東還是「全台唯一連續4年」歲入大於歲出且年年正成長的縣市,簡單來說每年還能存錢下來,財政調度有更多彈性。
雖然勒緊褲帶,但年度預算沒有因此減少,而是逐年增加,從2014年的304.95億,到2019年達399.71億元,和時間賽跑,推動更多建設。」
文章一出,網友一片驚呼,有人說「最棒的縣長就是安安,不像隔壁的市長」、也有人表示「屏東變那麼漂亮,那麼多的活動,還能還那麼多債,縣長太棒了」、「避免債留子孫,縣長這樣子值得鼓勵」
 

Record ID: 1553115135   From: 美國

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回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/21/2019    18:18:39 (IP code: X.X.70.204)
 對了, 西拉雅族是怎麼回事?
台南人確實有民族的格調. 不過 台南價值要全台灣接受 恐怕很難.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R012   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/21/2019    18:54:20 (IP code: X.X.70.204)
 我們台中腔講 mi-sinn.
南部人很mi-sinn, 不過本人不見得欣賞. 要能務實.

Mi-sinn 的人有點 obsessed/paranoid 傾向 (英語講), 需要人幫忙看頭看尾, 甚至必要時抓手抓腳, 當然就很可能被利用, 很麻煩, 現在這個社會.

(mî-chiⁿ: 綿精 | 入迷 / 努力 / 起勁)
 

Record ID: 1553115135R013   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/21/2019    18:55:23 (IP code: X.X.70.204)
 更正.
mi-sinn => mi-chinn
 

Record ID: 1553115135R014   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Joy, on Mar/21/2019    20:47:38 (IP code: X.X.21.204)
 Golden, thanks for sharing.
Here's a short story of mine and a reply to temo regarding "西拉雅族是怎麼回事? "

Given that I was raised by grandmom, aunties and my mom who were all from Shanhua and settling in Kaohsiung for a living, therefore my first languange--Holo dialect is mingled with accents of Shanhua and Kaohsiung, of which I believe mostly with Shanhua. My father, a Tianzhonger, died at my age of two, so I didn't have any impression about him or even his families.

The reason I call myself a Kaohsiunger is that I was born and had lived there until my turning 30 of age. After that, I have my second hometown--Hengchun, Pingtung till now.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R015   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/21/2019    20:55:06 (IP code: X.X.70.204)
  Tianzhonger?

Impressed.

However, I got to leave now, sorry. BYE.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R016   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Joy, on Mar/21/2019    21:03:37 (IP code: X.X.21.204)
 >我們台中腔講 mi-sinn.
>南部人很mi-sinn, 不過本人不見得欣賞. 要能務實.

其實,我bueh-ai3 甲你tsinn3,隨在你講。
想想咧,mai3踩你!^^
 

Record ID: 1553115135R017   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Golden, on Mar/22/2019    00:15:41 (IP code: X.X.53.63)
 Joy:

Is "Shanhua" a city in Tainan?
Is "Tianzhonger" people who lives in 台中?

My mother graduated from 台中 Midwife School (when Taiwan belonged to Japan,her father was a rich man, but he thought that it was just wasting money to send daughters to school, so my mother went to 台中 Midwife School , her two younger sisters followed her step, they did not need pay to go to that school), but she spoke/used Japanese while she stayed in 台中, so she did not use 台中(Taiwanese) to speak Taiwanese.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R018   From: 美國

回信 發言人:Joy, on Mar/22/2019    07:04:27 (IP code: X.X.245.18)
 Golden,

Shanhua town(善化鎮) belongs to Tainan Metropolitan Area.
Tianzhong town(田中鎮) belongs to Taichung Metropolitan Area.

My mother had a few education from Japanese colonial primary school, she dropped out 公小學 in the middle way. That's what I only know, my mom seldom talked about anything about herself even for my father. (I guess there might have been too much pain to recall her young age and my dad.) When I was in junior high school, my two aunts in my father's blood came to visit us and invited me to their homes. They talked me about my father with tears, saying how nice my dad was to take care the whole families and how successful tea wholesale he was. One thing I'm still proud of was that my aunts talked over how smart and how well-knowledable he was to usually stay up reading or studying until midnight almost everyday. It was sad we lost contacts with my aunts due to my mom--she hated us to have any contacts with my father's side. My mom passed away not long ago, I remember how hard I'd been trying to beg her to talk about more about her childhood and my dad, she talked few words only.

My mother only speak Taiwanese dialect sometimes a few Japanese, she could not understand 國語. After her passing away, I'd start my searching for my dad's family, I took my journey to Tianzhong and found the elder aunt also died and the little one staying with my cousin whom I barely familiar with. I could talk more but I had to stop here because of empty minded at the moment.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R019   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Golden, on Mar/22/2019    09:19:33 (IP code: X.X.46.31)
 Joy:

Thank you for replying and sharing your story.

My parents, two elder sisters ,elder brother and me have different personality/capability/..., but we have one thing in common, we all liked/like music and sang/sing well.

Joy, you and me have one thing in common: we 懷念 something in our memories, I like to introduce you a very good 合唱團---幸福男聲合唱團(some other 合唱團 also used the same name), not many people know this 幸福男聲合唱團, I can't type Chinese to tell you how good she is, so I use some people's comment:
游永富2 years ago (edited)
哎!令我十分懷念的好曲子,勾起了年輕時的回憶。幸福男聲三重唱的唱片輯中,這張是銷得最好的~一百多萬張,在50多年前是很銷的。聽說當時要出國的留學生,可是人手一片,以解在國外的思鄉情懷,雖是一般的通俗時代曲,但在編曲及歌者詮釋下實在太完美了。
尤其第二段由長伸獨唱更是如泣、如訴;淒美、婉柔曲風,更讓我懷念20多年前英年早逝的他,坊間留下的個人唱片雖不多,但每張每曲,均由其兄長合唱大師林福裕教授精心製作編曲,曲曲動聽,且百聽不厭,其中心酸酸、月夜愁、明月千里寄相思、意難忘、蔓莉、母親妳在何方、……均有長伸先生的S0l0聲跡,無限感懷,再請tong先生安排上線分享,相信這也是美嬌小姐所盼望聽到的歌是不?!

游永富1 year ago (edited)
“匆匆的來,匆匆的去,這就是人生”…這是當年這片黑膠唱片的開場序言,在“懷念”這首演奏曲做背景音樂,並由一位團員引言下,感性的介紹老歌的旋律美……使人難忘留在記憶深處中……
即使過了50多年,我們對這麼美好的合聲,仍無法被取代,難以忘懷,更對2位健在團員的去向關懐,對已逝的主唱長伸,及訓練、執行製作的林福裕教授,留給我們這麼多美好的共鳴合聲,更是帶給我們無限的回憶與“懷念”!……
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王啟酃1 year ago (edited)
幸福男聲合唱團演唱1964年7月20日出版歌曲《懷念》,收錄在幸福唱片「難忘的旋律」第一集,唱片編號LY-NO 106。原歌曲《懷念》是1948年電影《六二六間諜網》插曲,葉逸芳作詞,陳瑞楨作曲,由白光演唱。歌曲《懷念》歌詞如后 (幸福男聲合唱團和其他演唱歌星都將第二段歌詞演唱為「想起了他,勾起了情,還深深留著他的唇印。」原意已失 ! ):
1. 青紗外,月隱隱,青紗內,冷清清。琴聲揚,破寂岑,深深打動了我的心。
2. 想起了他,一片深情,還深深留著他的倩影。
3. 到如今,人兒呀,天涯何處去找尋。忘了吧,鼻兒已酸,淚珠兒濕透衣襟。(間奏音樂)
4. 到如今,人兒呀,天涯何處去找尋。忘了吧,鼻兒已酸,淚珠兒濕透衣襟。
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陳美嬌1 year ago (edited)
游永富先生:
您講得太好了!都講到每個人的內 心深處去。許是「幸福」的合音太感人了,同樣的情懷丶同樣的感受,隨著音域的起伏,有不斷的令人遐思、幻想,也存有著內心深處永無止盡的「惦念」,放不下的「惦念」。大概這就是人性吧!
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I post this song 懷念 sung by 幸福男聲合唱團, it was not recorded well, if you can get the original record to listen will be better.

幸福男聲合唱團 - 懷念



 

Record ID: 1553115135R020   From: 美國

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/22/2019    09:35:54 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 >Tianzhong town(田中鎮)

It sounds either Chhan-tiong or Tian-tiong by locals, never like that.

Remember "yl"-San? He's from Chhan-tiong.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R021   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/22/2019    09:41:27 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 >Taiwanese dialect

It's HOLO, an independent language, just like Hakka/Mandarin/English/Japanese.
You know that, right?
I thought you are a language major.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R022   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/22/2019    10:17:42 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 小台北桑 even used to indicate that English a dialect of Germanic. Can you believe that?

 

Record ID: 1553115135R023   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/22/2019    11:19:07 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 that English a dialect of Germanic. =>
that English is a dialect of Germanic.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R024   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Joy, on Mar/22/2019    11:29:26 (IP code: X.X.245.18)
 Golden,

I made several mistakes in R020 and felt relieved that you got me.
Thanks for introducing 幸福男聲合唱團 to me. I also like their 台語歌.


 

Record ID: 1553115135R025   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Joy, on Mar/22/2019    11:37:08 (IP code: X.X.245.18)
 恆春的民謠,思想起。


 

Record ID: 1553115135R026   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Joy, on Mar/22/2019    11:54:55 (IP code: X.X.245.18)
 temo,

我攏tue3阮阿姑叫做tshan5-tiong-nng(田中央) 啦~
yl是遐的人無毋對啦。

台語就照你講的Holo語啦~
莫閣討論落去,真忝頭!
 

Record ID: 1553115135R027   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Joy, on Mar/23/2019    00:06:44 (IP code: X.X.245.18)
 
 

Record ID: 1553115135R028   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:Golden, on Mar/24/2019    06:40:30 (IP code: X.X.46.31)
 台灣燈會限定乖乖食材從哪來?「安安出好菜」:有洋蔥 列印
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/life/breakingnews/2736843
2019-03-23 21:44
〔記者陳彥廷/屏東報導〕屏東恆春半島的洋蔥現在正是盛產季節,屏東縣長潘孟安回到恆春半島推廣洋蔥,而且不是單賣生鮮洋蔥,而是推出直播的「安安出好菜」,親自下廚作出7道洋蔥好料理。他還透露,台灣燈會期間分送給久候人潮的「乖乖」,就是用恆春半島名聞遐邇的洋蔥為食材,「現在品嘗屏東的洋蔥現在正是時候」。


潘孟安回故鄉推廣恆春半島的洋蔥。(記者陳彥廷攝)


潘孟安切洋蔥前,搞笑戴起蛙鏡。(記者陳彥廷攝)

有別於以往農產品推廣都集中在市區,屏東縣長潘孟安昨天特別回到家鄉恆春半島,到恆春農會親下廚洋蔥料理,有涼拌洋蔥、洋蔥鮪魚沙拉、洋蔥味噌湯等等,希望跳脫洋蔥以往只能成為配菜、香料的印象,一躍成為餐桌上的主菜。

恆春農會的家政媽媽則是將「小小小球」球莖的洋蔥,原本屬於營養不良的次級品的洋蔥,配合牛肉成為「珍珠洋蔥」入菜,小巧可愛的模樣,令人萌到口水直流,而直播前不少人期待想看潘孟安切洋蔥被燻哭的畫面,潘孟安還搞笑地戴起蛙鏡,但家政媽媽巧手的前置作業「冰洋蔥」後,切洋蔥不再淚流滿面。

潘孟安說,屏東洋蔥與進口洋蔥相較球莖膜較薄,纖維細緻,口感更佳,加上落山風乾淨又乾燥,是讓球莖長得更大的助手之一。他也透露,燈會期間他雖然忙、睡覺時間短,但仍維持精神,就是因為私房的「落山風洋蔥精力湯」,他分享料理方式,類似「滴雞湯」作法,簡單料理吃起來毫無負擔,全是洋蔥的營養,香味更是讓全場所有人食指大動。

潘孟安還在直播中透露,台灣燈會限定版乖乖,就是由屏東縣提供洋蔥,交由生產乖乖的公司打造,沒想到在燈會大受歡迎,成為久候人龍的最夯盛品,也安撫不少小朋友,是名副其實的乖乖。

恆春鎮農會總幹事林順和則補充,不僅洋蔥來自恆春,連當時乖乖所有的米也是恆春半島的米,因此在台灣燈會一炮而紅,別具意義,也歡迎民眾採購現正盛產的洋蔥,品嘗「落山風的味道」。
 

Record ID: 1553115135R029   From: 美國

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/24/2019    10:25:49 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 Btw. 前面提到的 "yl"桑, 是我所知道 在Golden 之前的外獨 "主要的板友"之中 唯一堅持寫英文的.
後來他才裝中文軟體, 開始寫華文. 可能退休比後較有時間玩.
不過 很少近年看他上外獨了.
偶而還是會看到 yl 的貼文, 但也不確定就是他.

其他 "ass kicker" 也是全英文的顯要板友, 不過只是短期出現, 近來也不見人了.
還有就是 怪ID的外國貼文, 不志在互動的 (其中也有FAPA 來的), 就稱不上我所謂的主要板友了.

以上順便交代.
不回應了, 就這樣. BYE.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R030   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:temo, on Mar/24/2019    10:26:50 (IP code: X.X.158.133)
 不過 很少近年看他上外獨了. =>
不過 近年很少看他上外獨了.
 

Record ID: 1553115135R031   From: 台灣

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